Comments on: the church of the 99 or the 1? http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1 Mon, 21 May 2012 15:21:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3376 kathyescobar Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:41:38 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3376 it's never too late to join the convo :) oh how i love your heart for the 1 and your willingness to leave all that was safe, comfy and predictable to give your life to find, love, include, nurture the 1's. you've got lots of them! peace & hope & strength out there in the wild. it’s never too late to join the convo :) oh how i love your heart for the 1 and your willingness to leave all that was safe, comfy and predictable to give your life to find, love, include, nurture the 1′s. you’ve got lots of them! peace & hope & strength out there in the wild.

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]]> By: Laurie http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3364 Laurie Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:22:55 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3364 I know I"m late on the conversation, but I can't help but want to jump and shout. All through the Christmas season, I couldn't get that parable of the sheep out of my head. I AM In HONDURAS because of the ONE. I left 99 well-fed sheep in a nice comfy mega church in New Orleans. Ahhh, but I am with the Shepherd as we search for the one left behind. And what a great journey it has been. I know I”m late on the conversation, but I can’t help but want to jump and shout. All through the Christmas season, I couldn’t get that parable of the sheep out of my head. I AM In HONDURAS because of the ONE. I left 99 well-fed sheep in a nice comfy mega church in New Orleans. Ahhh, but I am with the Shepherd as we search for the one left behind. And what a great journey it has been.

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]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3353 kathyescobar Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:28:37 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3353 <strong>dustin</strong> - thanks for reading & for being dedicated to the 1. i think you are amazing. <strong>katherine</strong> - whoa, those are some powerful words! lots to meditate on there. <strong>pam </strong>- hey there, loved your article & i will comment sometime soon, crazy day here but love the directions that things end up taking, that is one of the things i love about creativity & a variety of voices. i do remember that fun conversation on our patio. i am so excited to see you! yeah, we may need some help with rides, etc. will check in when i know more as 2 other friends are coming, 1 from denver, 1 from phoenix & i'm flying standby. thanks for your passion & heart, pam...you rock. dustin – thanks for reading & for being dedicated to the 1. i think you are amazing.

katherine – whoa, those are some powerful words! lots to meditate on there.

pam - hey there, loved your article & i will comment sometime soon, crazy day here but love the directions that things end up taking, that is one of the things i love about creativity & a variety of voices. i do remember that fun conversation on our patio. i am so excited to see you! yeah, we may need some help with rides, etc. will check in when i know more as 2 other friends are coming, 1 from denver, 1 from phoenix & i’m flying standby. thanks for your passion & heart, pam…you rock.

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]]> By: pam hogeweide http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3338 pam hogeweide Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:47:36 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3338 and here is the link for the conveniance of any of your readers who might be interested http://godmessedmeup.blogspot.com/2010/02/missing-lost-sheep-and-souls-and-hell.html and here is the link for the conveniance of any of your readers who might be interested

http://godmessedmeup.blogspot.com/2010/02/missing-lost-sheep-and-souls-and-hell.html

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]]> By: pam hogeweide http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3337 pam hogeweide Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:47:06 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3337 hey kathy love what you came up with when you reflected on this parable. i ended up in a different place. the hell thing surfaced for me as i meditated on it. remember our lively discussion about hell when we saw you in denver in 08? will be so great to see you next month. for real, if you need ANYTHING, transpo, whatever, give me a shout out. And save some Pam time for me at Convergence! Love ya! hey kathy
love what you came up with when you reflected on this parable.

i ended up in a different place. the hell thing surfaced for me as i meditated on it. remember our lively discussion about hell when we saw you in denver in 08?

will be so great to see you next month. for real, if you need ANYTHING, transpo, whatever, give me a shout out. And save some Pam time for me at Convergence!

Love ya!

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]]> By: Katherine Gunn http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3323 Katherine Gunn Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:47:18 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3323 Okay, I'll post Psalm14 from The Message: 1 Bilious and bloated, they gas, "God is gone." Their words are poison gas, fouling the air; they poison Rivers and skies; thistles are their cash crop. 2 God sticks his head out of heaven. He looks around. He's looking for someone not stupid— one man, even, God-expectant, just one God-ready woman. 3 He comes up empty. A string of zeros. Useless, unshepherded Sheep, taking turns pretending to be Shepherd. The ninety and nine follow their fellow. 4 Don't they know anything, all these impostors? Don't they know they can't get away with this— Treating people like a fast-food meal over which they're too busy to pray? 5-6 Night is coming for them, and nightmares, for God takes the side of victims. Do you think you can mess with the dreams of the poor? You can't, for God makes their dreams come true. 7 Is there anyone around to save Israel? Yes. God is around; God turns life around. Turned-around Jacob skips rope, turned-around Israel sings laughter. Okay, I’ll post Psalm14 from The Message:

1 Bilious and bloated, they gas, “God is gone.”
Their words are poison gas,
fouling the air; they poison
Rivers and skies;
thistles are their cash crop.

2 God sticks his head out of heaven.
He looks around.
He’s looking for someone not stupid—
one man, even, God-expectant,
just one God-ready woman.

3 He comes up empty. A string
of zeros. Useless, unshepherded
Sheep, taking turns pretending
to be Shepherd.
The ninety and nine
follow their fellow.

4 Don’t they know anything,
all these impostors?
Don’t they know
they can’t get away with this—
Treating people like a fast-food meal
over which they’re too busy to pray?

5-6 Night is coming for them, and nightmares,
for God takes the side of victims.
Do you think you can mess
with the dreams of the poor?
You can’t, for God
makes their dreams come true.

7 Is there anyone around to save Israel?
Yes. God is around; God turns life around.
Turned-around Jacob skips rope,
turned-around Israel sings laughter.

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]]> By: Katherine Gunn http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3322 Katherine Gunn Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:45:13 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3322 Hmm....I don't have time for along response, but I wanted to throw this in the mix...some time back, while reading the bible, I saw a link between this parable and Psalm 14.... Hmm….I don’t have time for along response, but I wanted to throw this in the mix…some time back, while reading the bible, I saw a link between this parable and Psalm 14….

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]]> By: Dustin Cross http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3320 Dustin Cross Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:13:07 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3320 Kathy...you are amazing. I needed this today. Kathy…you are amazing. I needed this today.

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]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3318 kathyescobar Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:23:41 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3318 <strong>skylark</strong> - yeah, i think it's an attitude of the heart that Jesus was getting at (what you are saying in #3 of your latest comment. to me, that's spiritual poverty, the poor in spirit, those that realize their need for God. <strong>christen</strong> - thanks so much for your honest reflections; i have heard many other speak of the same thing, especially those who were raised in "church" and maybe didn't have some of the same prodigal-y experiences as others. the last thing i ever want to do is somehow make a good guy and a bad guy scenario, ha ha. we are all just different & at different stages, etc. the part i am most sad about, though, related to "church" is that the 99 pay the bills so they often shape much more of what happens as an overall culture than the 1's & there's a lot of wacky teaching that keeps the 99 stuck & the 1's ignored. just rambling here & think i probably moved away from your idea more than i intended. i so appreciate your thoughts & perspectives and what it is stirring up. <strong>jacob</strong> - cool, glad you took a chance. i try to read mark's stuff when i can, too. skylark – yeah, i think it’s an attitude of the heart that Jesus was getting at (what you are saying in #3 of your latest comment. to me, that’s spiritual poverty, the poor in spirit, those that realize their need for God.

christen – thanks so much for your honest reflections; i have heard many other speak of the same thing, especially those who were raised in “church” and maybe didn’t have some of the same prodigal-y experiences as others. the last thing i ever want to do is somehow make a good guy and a bad guy scenario, ha ha. we are all just different & at different stages, etc. the part i am most sad about, though, related to “church” is that the 99 pay the bills so they often shape much more of what happens as an overall culture than the 1′s & there’s a lot of wacky teaching that keeps the 99 stuck & the 1′s ignored. just rambling here & think i probably moved away from your idea more than i intended. i so appreciate your thoughts & perspectives and what it is stirring up.

jacob – cool, glad you took a chance. i try to read mark’s stuff when i can, too.

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]]> By: Jacob Lambert http://kathyescobar.com/2010/02/04/the-church-of-the-99-or-the-1/#comment-3317 Jacob Lambert Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:15:00 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=2733#comment-3317 I'm a friend of Mark Van steenwyk. he had a link a few weeks back to one of your posts from facebook and I took a chance! I’m a friend of Mark Van steenwyk. he had a link a few weeks back to one of your posts from facebook and I took a chance!

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