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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/10/26/doubt-faith-living-in-the-tension/#comment-2977</link>
		<dc:creator>kathyescobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>skylark - thanks for sharing this beauty with us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skylark &#8211; thanks for sharing this beauty with us!
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		<title>By: Skylark</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/10/26/doubt-faith-living-in-the-tension/#comment-2960</link>
		<dc:creator>Skylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;More&quot; we seek
--------------------------

There is a place
where Church meets World
and the young greet the old

And our problem is
Control

Where we should be driven by compassion
we are lethargic with complacency
Where we should be united as one with our differences
that which should draw us to the same
we have instead outlined our territory and put up a barbed fence

How can we expect others to see Love
if we use
Everything
as a weapon

We have aligned ourselves to stereotype
building barriers across generations
Seeking not more of the Lord
but more of ourselves in our wish to be outstanding

We are not called to be the one but to follow The One
We are the many, His chosen bride

Like moonshine, with our hearts and eyes strong set to Jesus
we will reflect the spotlessness by which He sees us

Can we not push aside constraint
and release our base assumptions

Trade control for openness
and rebellion for learning wisdom
Bring balance to our character
and unite our hearts because we share devotion

Through our desperation join to walk as one
because even in our differences
the &quot;More&quot; we seek
is God</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;More&#8221; we seek<br />
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<p>There is a place<br />
where Church meets World<br />
and the young greet the old</p>
<p>And our problem is<br />
Control</p>
<p>Where we should be driven by compassion<br />
we are lethargic with complacency<br />
Where we should be united as one with our differences<br />
that which should draw us to the same<br />
we have instead outlined our territory and put up a barbed fence</p>
<p>How can we expect others to see Love<br />
if we use<br />
Everything<br />
as a weapon</p>
<p>We have aligned ourselves to stereotype<br />
building barriers across generations<br />
Seeking not more of the Lord<br />
but more of ourselves in our wish to be outstanding</p>
<p>We are not called to be the one but to follow The One<br />
We are the many, His chosen bride</p>
<p>Like moonshine, with our hearts and eyes strong set to Jesus<br />
we will reflect the spotlessness by which He sees us</p>
<p>Can we not push aside constraint<br />
and release our base assumptions</p>
<p>Trade control for openness<br />
and rebellion for learning wisdom<br />
Bring balance to our character<br />
and unite our hearts because we share devotion</p>
<p>Through our desperation join to walk as one<br />
because even in our differences<br />
the &#8220;More&#8221; we seek<br />
is God
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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/10/26/doubt-faith-living-in-the-tension/#comment-2957</link>
		<dc:creator>kathyescobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liz - beautiful, thanks for sharing

rachel - thanks, too.  my all-time favorite word is &quot;hope&quot;

katherine - thanks for sharing

margret - i am glad you connected with these thoughts :)  it is hard not to put in our two cents or to listen to others putting in theirs unsolicited, but i am indeed glad that grace fills in the cracks.

minnow - yep, me, too.  thanks for the link love, i always appreciate your thoughtful challenging posts.  keep speaking it! 

els - oh how i love you &amp; your heart.  thanks for your continued encouragement and sharing of what God is doing in and through you...

davida - thats my #1 alltime favorite passage in scripture.  yes, i believe that still too...looking forward to hearing how beauty night went.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liz &#8211; beautiful, thanks for sharing</p>
<p>rachel &#8211; thanks, too.  my all-time favorite word is &#8220;hope&#8221;</p>
<p>katherine &#8211; thanks for sharing</p>
<p>margret &#8211; i am glad you connected with these thoughts <img src='http://kathyescobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   it is hard not to put in our two cents or to listen to others putting in theirs unsolicited, but i am indeed glad that grace fills in the cracks.</p>
<p>minnow &#8211; yep, me, too.  thanks for the link love, i always appreciate your thoughtful challenging posts.  keep speaking it! </p>
<p>els &#8211; oh how i love you &amp; your heart.  thanks for your continued encouragement and sharing of what God is doing in and through you&#8230;</p>
<p>davida &#8211; thats my #1 alltime favorite passage in scripture.  yes, i believe that still too&#8230;looking forward to hearing how beauty night went.
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		<title>By: Davida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love it!!! thank you for sharing this.  i&#039;ve been busy and not read blogs these past few weeks, so i&#039;ll have to catch up on here sometime soon!  :)  also, we are having our night of beauty at Zoe&#039;s tomorrow night.  so excited and nervous!!!  it will be great, though.  :)  i&#039;m so thankful for you and the refuge...y&#039;all are a blessing and inspiration to me!!

despite my doubt, i still believe that God gives beauty for ashes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love it!!! thank you for sharing this.  i&#8217;ve been busy and not read blogs these past few weeks, so i&#8217;ll have to catch up on here sometime soon!  <img src='http://kathyescobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   also, we are having our night of beauty at Zoe&#8217;s tomorrow night.  so excited and nervous!!!  it will be great, though.  <img src='http://kathyescobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   i&#8217;m so thankful for you and the refuge&#8230;y&#8217;all are a blessing and inspiration to me!!</p>
<p>despite my doubt, i still believe that God gives beauty for ashes.
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		<title>By: Whose Message Do We Believe? &#171; Minnowspeaks Weblog</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/10/26/doubt-faith-living-in-the-tension/#comment-2952</link>
		<dc:creator>Whose Message Do We Believe? &#171; Minnowspeaks Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    I really enjoy reading Kathy Escobar&#8217;s blog, A Carnival in My Head.  And this week&#8217;s post was no different.  The question she posed to her readers was: How would you fill in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Els</title>
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		<dc:creator>Els</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O my lovely friend how do you know my thoughts? LOL... I LOVE THIS PART KATHY!! Specially the bit AT we are..........


to respect that everyone might not see what we see, but it doesn’t make us right and them wrong.  or us wrong and them right.  they just both “are.” part of loving each other well is letting each other be where we are at and not trying to convince the other to “see what we see.” 


Many times again i was left with many feelings about God and doubts....I was talking with someone the other day also about this,  we meet people were they are AT with love and grace!! And not force our stuff on them, they will not see it manytimes anyway!! I DIDN&#039;T lol...... Everytime that happend my heart closed down. I thought why? Why is no-one listening to me? ( some people do now) That&#039;s why Kathy this encouraged me again and it builded me up and seeing that i am not crazy!! YOu rock!!! 

But even so “despite my doubt, i still believe that God is still believing in me and would never leave me even though i many times mess up!!! And believe me, i do!!

LOVE yeaha KathyX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O my lovely friend how do you know my thoughts? LOL&#8230; I LOVE THIS PART KATHY!! Specially the bit AT we are&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>to respect that everyone might not see what we see, but it doesn’t make us right and them wrong.  or us wrong and them right.  they just both “are.” part of loving each other well is letting each other be where we are at and not trying to convince the other to “see what we see.” </p>
<p>Many times again i was left with many feelings about God and doubts&#8230;.I was talking with someone the other day also about this,  we meet people were they are AT with love and grace!! And not force our stuff on them, they will not see it manytimes anyway!! I DIDN&#8217;T lol&#8230;&#8230; Everytime that happend my heart closed down. I thought why? Why is no-one listening to me? ( some people do now) That&#8217;s why Kathy this encouraged me again and it builded me up and seeing that i am not crazy!! YOu rock!!! </p>
<p>But even so “despite my doubt, i still believe that God is still believing in me and would never leave me even though i many times mess up!!! And believe me, i do!!</p>
<p>LOVE yeaha KathyX
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		<title>By: minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite my doubt I still believe God wants to love the world through His people.</description>
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		<title>By: Margret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a beautiful gift that christian community can give to each other is the space to be wherever they are and trust that God is at work and doesn’t always need our two cents.&quot; 

Kathy, I love that! For me, part of saying &quot;yes&quot; to Jesus&#039; offer of a relationship means I must believe His statement that no one comes to the Father except through Him. Yet the flip side of that coin is scary, because if we haven&#039;t come to trust Him well enough to believe He knows what He&#039;s doing and trust that He has everything under control, without our input/assistance/advice everyone we think doesn&#039;t know Him is screwed. 

So, when others in the family get in my face, trying to convince me theirs is the only way to see/do things, I choose to believe they&#039;re doing so from a heart of love (thinking either I won&#039;t be blessed or, worst case scenario, am doomed), not from a need to be right. And each time I pray, when those inevitable in-your-face conversations are mine, they will be seasoned with salt. 

“despite my doubt--&#039;Oh no! Something awful will happen if I don&#039;t say something!&#039;--i still believe God understands my heart (and theirs), and He knows our two cents are offered in love.”

All of Heaven&#039;s best,
Margret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a beautiful gift that christian community can give to each other is the space to be wherever they are and trust that God is at work and doesn’t always need our two cents.&#8221; </p>
<p>Kathy, I love that! For me, part of saying &#8220;yes&#8221; to Jesus&#8217; offer of a relationship means I must believe His statement that no one comes to the Father except through Him. Yet the flip side of that coin is scary, because if we haven&#8217;t come to trust Him well enough to believe He knows what He&#8217;s doing and trust that He has everything under control, without our input/assistance/advice everyone we think doesn&#8217;t know Him is screwed. </p>
<p>So, when others in the family get in my face, trying to convince me theirs is the only way to see/do things, I choose to believe they&#8217;re doing so from a heart of love (thinking either I won&#8217;t be blessed or, worst case scenario, am doomed), not from a need to be right. And each time I pray, when those inevitable in-your-face conversations are mine, they will be seasoned with salt. </p>
<p>“despite my doubt&#8211;&#8217;Oh no! Something awful will happen if I don&#8217;t say something!&#8217;&#8211;i still believe God understands my heart (and theirs), and He knows our two cents are offered in love.”</p>
<p>All of Heaven&#8217;s best,<br />
Margret
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite my doubts, I still believe God is worth being loyal to...</description>
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		<title>By: Rachel H. Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel H. Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite my doubts (and I have many), I believe that God loves the world and offers all people hope.</description>
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