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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/09/22/doubt-amp-faith-thewild-beautiful-ride/#comment-2959</link>
		<dc:creator>kathyescobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tammy – yeah, sometimes the hardest thing is not to have someone to process some of these doubts with. i hope that happens but meanwhile, i am glad you have a partner who doesn’t mind your white girl dancing

patty – yes, life really is a big bundle of paradoxes, isn’t it. i think learning to embrace them is a big part of our journey.

laurie – always great to hear from you. i wish united still flew down to el salvador, we really want to get down there but it’s hard without direct access. i hope this place can be helpful to others on the journey. peace &amp; hope to you in the trenches…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tammy – yeah, sometimes the hardest thing is not to have someone to process some of these doubts with. i hope that happens but meanwhile, i am glad you have a partner who doesn’t mind your white girl dancing</p>
<p>patty – yes, life really is a big bundle of paradoxes, isn’t it. i think learning to embrace them is a big part of our journey.</p>
<p>laurie – always great to hear from you. i wish united still flew down to el salvador, we really want to get down there but it’s hard without direct access. i hope this place can be helpful to others on the journey. peace &amp; hope to you in the trenches…</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/09/22/doubt-amp-faith-thewild-beautiful-ride/#comment-2956</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not posted a comment in a while. This is a good series. I have a few friends who are searching lately. For God? I think so. I directed them to this site because the authenticity of the words are evident as well as clarity of purpose: you love God and want to help fellow seekers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not posted a comment in a while. This is a good series. I have a few friends who are searching lately. For God? I think so. I directed them to this site because the authenticity of the words are evident as well as clarity of purpose: you love God and want to help fellow seekers.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kathy - this post is so powerful!  Whenever I think I have things kind of figured out, something happens and I am left wondering - okay God, just where are You in this?  I am thankful for friends who want to &quot;go there&quot; with me and a body of believers who don&#039;t look down on doubters.  Life is full of laughter and tears, joy and pain, love and hate, and somehow, God is in all of it.  I really love the mystery of all of that but still long for a relationship with Him that is close and life-giving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kathy &#8211; this post is so powerful!  Whenever I think I have things kind of figured out, something happens and I am left wondering &#8211; okay God, just where are You in this?  I am thankful for friends who want to &#8220;go there&#8221; with me and a body of believers who don&#8217;t look down on doubters.  Life is full of laughter and tears, joy and pain, love and hate, and somehow, God is in all of it.  I really love the mystery of all of that but still long for a relationship with Him that is close and life-giving.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, my first thought was dancing...seems to be a romance theme that God has for me!  I think because more often than not, doubting and dancing are part of my contemplative times with Him!  Good thing He can handle my doubting...AND my crazy &quot;white girl&quot; dancing! Ha! :-)  But, as you said, the doubting and questioning happen ALONE!!!  For me, I think it&#039;s because I&#039;m doubting the church and the so-called &quot;church going Christians&quot; right now!  It&#039;s a little safer to doubt alone.  Honesty really got me no where with my so-called Christian friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, my first thought was dancing&#8230;seems to be a romance theme that God has for me!  I think because more often than not, doubting and dancing are part of my contemplative times with Him!  Good thing He can handle my doubting&#8230;AND my crazy &#8220;white girl&#8221; dancing! Ha! <img src='http://kathyescobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   But, as you said, the doubting and questioning happen ALONE!!!  For me, I think it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m doubting the church and the so-called &#8220;church going Christians&#8221; right now!  It&#8217;s a little safer to doubt alone.  Honesty really got me no where with my so-called Christian friends.</p>
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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/09/22/doubt-amp-faith-thewild-beautiful-ride/#comment-2899</link>
		<dc:creator>kathyescobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;rachel &lt;/strong&gt;- thanks for the link &amp; for your thoughts here.  i really respect your journey and your blog so thanks for taking time to share.  excited about your book, too, so fun!  

&lt;strong&gt;blueorchid&lt;/strong&gt; - oh how i love your honest journey.  it can be so scary, the darkness and not feeling the solid ground underneath, wondering how far the sinking will go, but i love that image from narnia that gives you a little hope...i think of you often and how much i wish you were in some of these conversations we&#039;re having face to face! 

&lt;strong&gt;phyllis&lt;/strong&gt; - potentially?  hahahha!  love you &amp; am so glad that we don&#039;t have to whisper anymore.   i wonder what those blue sky people make of us? 

&lt;strong&gt;jim&lt;/strong&gt; - yeah, it makes me so happy that you have each other &amp; the safe place you&#039;ve created

&lt;strong&gt;tom&lt;/strong&gt; - the shoulds really take their toll.  and yeah, to me a lot of doubt are the questions &amp; questioning.  i love it when my kids and i sit around and they start asking deep and powerful questions that i have no easy answers for...something really lovely always comes from it.  

&lt;strong&gt;margret&lt;/strong&gt; - thanks for your thoughts &amp; i love the metaphor!

&lt;strong&gt;ken&lt;/strong&gt; - oh how i love you.   

&lt;strong&gt;mark&lt;/strong&gt; - always beautiful thoughts about God&#039;s love for us

&lt;strong&gt;minnow&lt;/strong&gt; - i love it when there&#039;s another angle to a passage that has made many feel inadequate and ashamed somehow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>rachel </strong>- thanks for the link &amp; for your thoughts here.  i really respect your journey and your blog so thanks for taking time to share.  excited about your book, too, so fun!  </p>
<p><strong>blueorchid</strong> &#8211; oh how i love your honest journey.  it can be so scary, the darkness and not feeling the solid ground underneath, wondering how far the sinking will go, but i love that image from narnia that gives you a little hope&#8230;i think of you often and how much i wish you were in some of these conversations we&#8217;re having face to face! </p>
<p><strong>phyllis</strong> &#8211; potentially?  hahahha!  love you &amp; am so glad that we don&#8217;t have to whisper anymore.   i wonder what those blue sky people make of us? </p>
<p><strong>jim</strong> &#8211; yeah, it makes me so happy that you have each other &amp; the safe place you&#8217;ve created</p>
<p><strong>tom</strong> &#8211; the shoulds really take their toll.  and yeah, to me a lot of doubt are the questions &amp; questioning.  i love it when my kids and i sit around and they start asking deep and powerful questions that i have no easy answers for&#8230;something really lovely always comes from it.  </p>
<p><strong>margret</strong> &#8211; thanks for your thoughts &amp; i love the metaphor!</p>
<p><strong>ken</strong> &#8211; oh how i love you.   </p>
<p><strong>mark</strong> &#8211; always beautiful thoughts about God&#8217;s love for us</p>
<p><strong>minnow</strong> &#8211; i love it when there&#8217;s another angle to a passage that has made many feel inadequate and ashamed somehow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: minnow</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2009/09/22/doubt-amp-faith-thewild-beautiful-ride/#comment-2898</link>
		<dc:creator>minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy--One of my favorite passages that I take to be along these same lines is when Jesus comes to the disciples after the ressurection and later Thomas tells the others unless I see I will not believe.  When Jesus comes back He doesn&#039;t berate Thomas but He does tell him to see and believe.  He also says Blessed are those who believe without seeing.  Sometimes that sounds super spiritual to me but other times I read that phrase and think &quot;you know, it&#039;s okay that I don&#039;t see everything just the right way; I can believe in a God who doesn&#039;t need me to have all the answers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy&#8211;One of my favorite passages that I take to be along these same lines is when Jesus comes to the disciples after the ressurection and later Thomas tells the others unless I see I will not believe.  When Jesus comes back He doesn&#8217;t berate Thomas but He does tell him to see and believe.  He also says Blessed are those who believe without seeing.  Sometimes that sounds super spiritual to me but other times I read that phrase and think &#8220;you know, it&#8217;s okay that I don&#8217;t see everything just the right way; I can believe in a God who doesn&#8217;t need me to have all the answers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people have made faith God .. no, faith is not God. here&#039;s an illustration, 

It is not your faith that motivates God to act; it is His love for you which motivates Him. My son got his fingers mangled in a beater when he was about 6, I’m outside chopping wood. Dad!!! Dad!!! – he screams. Do, I stop and examine his faith in me that I will act? Of course not!! It is a Father’s love that motivates me to come to his aid. So it is with God - His love for you ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people have made faith God .. no, faith is not God. here&#8217;s an illustration, </p>
<p>It is not your faith that motivates God to act; it is His love for you which motivates Him. My son got his fingers mangled in a beater when he was about 6, I’m outside chopping wood. Dad!!! Dad!!! – he screams. Do, I stop and examine his faith in me that I will act? Of course not!! It is a Father’s love that motivates me to come to his aid. So it is with God &#8211; His love for you &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy, since I started this journey to the outer territories eleven years ago my faith has been reduced to: God loves us but I don&#039;t know what that looks like.
The rest has not come into focus.
I love you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy, since I started this journey to the outer territories eleven years ago my faith has been reduced to: God loves us but I don&#8217;t know what that looks like.<br />
The rest has not come into focus.<br />
I love you</p>
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		<title>By: Margret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kathy,

This was of great encouragement to me, as all your missives are. In fact, I&#039;m hard pressed not to submit a paragraph or 40 in response to every post!

With regard to faith and doubt, I&#039;ve told people for years that God is big enough to handle our questions. Perhaps it&#039;s time for a follow-up query: If He&#039;s not afraid, why should His children be? 

I loved your comment about real relationships standing the tests of time and uncertainty, also your &quot;God and i are still hanging in there.   many of my superficial relationships “in church” are gone.   doubters &amp; pot-stirrers aren’t super popular there.&quot; 

Frankly, I would think pot-stirrers would be welcomed, encouraged, and applauded. Who wants a burnt, smelly, unpalatable meal, when instead you could have a beautiful melding of spices and textures, and no sticky stuff difficult to clean up? I hope my pot-stirring days never end!

All of Heaven&#039;s best,
Margret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathy,</p>
<p>This was of great encouragement to me, as all your missives are. In fact, I&#8217;m hard pressed not to submit a paragraph or 40 in response to every post!</p>
<p>With regard to faith and doubt, I&#8217;ve told people for years that God is big enough to handle our questions. Perhaps it&#8217;s time for a follow-up query: If He&#8217;s not afraid, why should His children be? </p>
<p>I loved your comment about real relationships standing the tests of time and uncertainty, also your &#8220;God and i are still hanging in there.   many of my superficial relationships “in church” are gone.   doubters &amp; pot-stirrers aren’t super popular there.&#8221; </p>
<p>Frankly, I would think pot-stirrers would be welcomed, encouraged, and applauded. Who wants a burnt, smelly, unpalatable meal, when instead you could have a beautiful melding of spices and textures, and no sticky stuff difficult to clean up? I hope my pot-stirring days never end!</p>
<p>All of Heaven&#8217;s best,<br />
Margret</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy:

I&#039;m actively learning more and more that the only thing about God and life that does not change is the Character and Nature of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. However even my understanding of God and His Character and Nature is continuously growing and in some ways changing. 

I&#039;m finding out that much of what I once new was wrong.

I love what you said about people that use the word should too often. As I read somewhere &quot;We would all be better off if we stopped &quot;Shoulding&quot; ourselves and on others.&quot;

For me I don&#039;t know if the right word is &quot;Doubt,&quot; but &quot;questions&quot; and &quot;questioning&quot; doctrines and dogmas are definitely helping set me free from religion, and saving/strengthening my faith and building my relationship with Father and the few others he has currently connected me with. 

Questions regarding things I&#039;ve thought had to be translated wrong in the bible I&#039;ve had for 32 years are beginning to be confirmed that is the Holy Spirit was allowing me to see truth that I once doubted because it disagreed with the evangelical doctrinistas. 


Tom Wilson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actively learning more and more that the only thing about God and life that does not change is the Character and Nature of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. However even my understanding of God and His Character and Nature is continuously growing and in some ways changing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m finding out that much of what I once new was wrong.</p>
<p>I love what you said about people that use the word should too often. As I read somewhere &#8220;We would all be better off if we stopped &#8220;Shoulding&#8221; ourselves and on others.&#8221;</p>
<p>For me I don&#8217;t know if the right word is &#8220;Doubt,&#8221; but &#8220;questions&#8221; and &#8220;questioning&#8221; doctrines and dogmas are definitely helping set me free from religion, and saving/strengthening my faith and building my relationship with Father and the few others he has currently connected me with. </p>
<p>Questions regarding things I&#8217;ve thought had to be translated wrong in the bible I&#8217;ve had for 32 years are beginning to be confirmed that is the Holy Spirit was allowing me to see truth that I once doubted because it disagreed with the evangelical doctrinistas. </p>
<p>Tom Wilson</p>
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