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		<title>By: Barb O.</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Everyone,

I have been reading this article and the comments quite a few months after everyone else was in dialog. This topic is close to my heart.  In fact I wrote a doctoral dissertation which described how my participants processed their &#039;muddy tunnel&#039; church experience and how they eventually recovered from it.

You can read about others who have &#039;been there&#039; at:
www.ChurchExiters.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>I have been reading this article and the comments quite a few months after everyone else was in dialog. This topic is close to my heart.  In fact I wrote a doctoral dissertation which described how my participants processed their &#8216;muddy tunnel&#8217; church experience and how they eventually recovered from it.</p>
<p>You can read about others who have &#8216;been there&#8217; at:<br />
<a href="http://www.ChurchExiters.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ChurchExiters.com</a>.
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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>kathyescobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brother maynard - thanks for the link. 

dave - oh those guys are so great.  that&#039;s cool you are all connected to each other

we have been lied to - thanks for commenting, this is why i believe it is so important for churches to teach relationship instead of religion. ps: your link didn&#039;t work, looked like your site got hacked or something, i wasn&#039;t quite sure? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brother maynard &#8211; thanks for the link. </p>
<p>dave &#8211; oh those guys are so great.  that&#8217;s cool you are all connected to each other</p>
<p>we have been lied to &#8211; thanks for commenting, this is why i believe it is so important for churches to teach relationship instead of religion. ps: your link didn&#8217;t work, looked like your site got hacked or something, i wasn&#8217;t quite sure?
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		<title>By: we have been lied to</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-1186</link>
		<dc:creator>we have been lied to</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kathy, a friend who has been reading the book (we have been lied to--tearing down the walls of Christian wrong belief and unbelief)found your link on his google reader (your site was recommended) and asked me to check it out. He was wanting me to understand how many people there are out there whose experience within the Religion of Christianity has been less than hoped for. The idea of what it truly means to walk by faith in the Spirit of God is so radical -- go figure you actually have to believe God and bet your life on it -- that so many people have opted for religion and man made forms of trying to get God to work for you. It is so sad but so true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kathy, a friend who has been reading the book (we have been lied to&#8211;tearing down the walls of Christian wrong belief and unbelief)found your link on his google reader (your site was recommended) and asked me to check it out. He was wanting me to understand how many people there are out there whose experience within the Religion of Christianity has been less than hoped for. The idea of what it truly means to walk by faith in the Spirit of God is so radical &#8212; go figure you actually have to believe God and bet your life on it &#8212; that so many people have opted for religion and man made forms of trying to get God to work for you. It is so sad but so true.
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		<title>By: monachusbellator</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>monachusbellator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kathy,
I hang out with Jonathan (missio dei) and Jeromy (mending shift) and found your blog through them.   
Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kathy,<br />
I hang out with Jonathan (missio dei) and Jeromy (mending shift) and found your blog through them.<br />
Dave
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		<title>By: Random Acts of Linkage #73 : Subversive Influence</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Acts of Linkage #73 : Subversive Influence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Escobar visits her metaphorical Egypt &#8212; take special note, those of you that have a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathyescobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey randi, nice to hear from you here. i try to always read minnows blog. she is always asking good questions. look forward to hearing some of your questions, feel free to email or comment or whatever works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey randi, nice to hear from you here. i try to always read minnows blog. she is always asking good questions. look forward to hearing some of your questions, feel free to email or comment or whatever works!
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		<title>By: Randi :)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randi :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found your blog through minnow&#039;s.  very very interesting.  I really really love the part in this entry about power..... very interesting.  I&#039;ve never heard anybody (that was a christian) &#039;talk&#039; the way you do.... intriguing how God can use the internet to teach and how many new wonderful ideas I&#039;ve heard. 

I have so so many questions that I asked of Minnow - that I want to also ask to you - but I&#039;ll just have to keep reading and find out more about you and then try to figure out how to formulate my questions :) 

thanks for the challenging words. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found your blog through minnow&#8217;s.  very very interesting.  I really really love the part in this entry about power&#8230;.. very interesting.  I&#8217;ve never heard anybody (that was a christian) &#8216;talk&#8217; the way you do&#8230;. intriguing how God can use the internet to teach and how many new wonderful ideas I&#8217;ve heard. </p>
<p>I have so so many questions that I asked of Minnow &#8211; that I want to also ask to you &#8211; but I&#8217;ll just have to keep reading and find out more about you and then try to figure out how to formulate my questions <img src='http://kathyescobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>kathyescobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave - welcome &amp; thanks so much for sharing. yeah, so much healing to be had as we let go of giving people way too much power. it can really destroy us &amp; i, too, am thankful for God&#039;s grace &amp; how the lies we bought into can be redeemed.

we&#039;ve been lied to - how&#039;d you hear about this blog? thanks for the link

blake - i&#039;d love to hear more about what you guys are running! and yeah, in our quest to be safe &amp; healthy, i know that we are not perfect &amp; i am sure have unintentionally wounded others since we started. there&#039;s no way to get it 100% right but boy do we want to do everything we can to decrease woundedness &amp; increase healing &amp; hope.

susan - thanks. good to hear from you here again.

laurie - yep, then you so get it. it really is a love/hate, isn&#039;t it?

stacy - look forward to hearing from you...

brian - i will comment over on your post. beautiful.

barb - i love ellen (hey all, she is new to blog world &amp; is writing some great stuff. her link is on my page ellen haroutunian.  thanks for stopping by!

riverpoet - (what a beautiful title, btw) - that is so great to hear, the renewal &amp; redepemption that you are experiencing.  i do think as we &quot;grow up&quot; in all kinds of ways the likelihood of getting sucked in decreases and we can keep a more balanced &amp; honest perspective that will probably really serve us well.  best to you on this next leg of your journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave &#8211; welcome &amp; thanks so much for sharing. yeah, so much healing to be had as we let go of giving people way too much power. it can really destroy us &amp; i, too, am thankful for God&#8217;s grace &amp; how the lies we bought into can be redeemed.</p>
<p>we&#8217;ve been lied to &#8211; how&#8217;d you hear about this blog? thanks for the link</p>
<p>blake &#8211; i&#8217;d love to hear more about what you guys are running! and yeah, in our quest to be safe &amp; healthy, i know that we are not perfect &amp; i am sure have unintentionally wounded others since we started. there&#8217;s no way to get it 100% right but boy do we want to do everything we can to decrease woundedness &amp; increase healing &amp; hope.</p>
<p>susan &#8211; thanks. good to hear from you here again.</p>
<p>laurie &#8211; yep, then you so get it. it really is a love/hate, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>stacy &#8211; look forward to hearing from you&#8230;</p>
<p>brian &#8211; i will comment over on your post. beautiful.</p>
<p>barb &#8211; i love ellen (hey all, she is new to blog world &amp; is writing some great stuff. her link is on my page ellen haroutunian.  thanks for stopping by!</p>
<p>riverpoet &#8211; (what a beautiful title, btw) &#8211; that is so great to hear, the renewal &amp; redepemption that you are experiencing.  i do think as we &#8220;grow up&#8221; in all kinds of ways the likelihood of getting sucked in decreases and we can keep a more balanced &amp; honest perspective that will probably really serve us well.  best to you on this next leg of your journey.
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		<title>By: RiverPoet</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>RiverPoet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found you through Brian over at The Cheek of God. 

Beautiful post, and well written. Having recently gone back to church again, 25 years after leaving Egypt, I find that I&#039;m a different person now, and it&#039;s not Egypt. I&#039;m in a new place geographically, physically, mentally, and emotionally. And if this new place ever begins to feel like Egypt, I&#039;ll move on. For now, I&#039;m feeding my spiritual side and loving every minute of it. But I do this with my eyes open, as they should be. 

Peace - D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found you through Brian over at The Cheek of God. </p>
<p>Beautiful post, and well written. Having recently gone back to church again, 25 years after leaving Egypt, I find that I&#8217;m a different person now, and it&#8217;s not Egypt. I&#8217;m in a new place geographically, physically, mentally, and emotionally. And if this new place ever begins to feel like Egypt, I&#8217;ll move on. For now, I&#8217;m feeding my spiritual side and loving every minute of it. But I do this with my eyes open, as they should be. </p>
<p>Peace &#8211; D
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		<title>By: Barb Dokter</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/08/09/lessons-from-egypt/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Barb Dokter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for speaking this, Kathy, got your site from Ellen H:

God’s relationship with the israelites has always gotten under my skin.  and trust me, i never, ever dis the israelites. i am so them!  i see miracles one day and the next day i whine and complain that he never delivers the goods.  i want to listen &amp; trust &amp; go where he’s asking me to go, but lots of times i am stiff-necked &amp; prideful &amp; scared.  i want to take each new step toward the promised land &amp; new things but in my dark insecure times i miss the predictability &amp; sureness of egypt. 

Yep. I love how real you are, girl.
Barb Dokter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for speaking this, Kathy, got your site from Ellen H:</p>
<p>God’s relationship with the israelites has always gotten under my skin.  and trust me, i never, ever dis the israelites. i am so them!  i see miracles one day and the next day i whine and complain that he never delivers the goods.  i want to listen &amp; trust &amp; go where he’s asking me to go, but lots of times i am stiff-necked &amp; prideful &amp; scared.  i want to take each new step toward the promised land &amp; new things but in my dark insecure times i miss the predictability &amp; sureness of egypt. </p>
<p>Yep. I love how real you are, girl.<br />
Barb Dokter
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