Comments on: the crazy tension between “too much” and “not enough” http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough Wed, 16 May 2012 21:17:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: DonnaV. http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1057 DonnaV. Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:56:29 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1057 Good stuff Kathy, I had to go back and reread this one a couple of times. As I read the first time I thought of Brennan Manning...then I get to your quote and cracked up as I realized you were thinking of him to! I'm reading his book The Signature of Jesus and it has quickly become my favoritezÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅ that was a message from my cat who felt the need to jump on the keypad...I'm sure there is some deep insight hidden in whatever that is!! ha Love you much!! Donna & Callie! ha Good stuff Kathy, I had to go back and reread this one a couple of times. As I read the first time I thought of Brennan Manning…then I get to your quote and cracked up as I realized you were thinking of him to! I’m reading his book The Signature of Jesus and it has quickly become my favoritezÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅÅ
that was a message from my cat who felt the need to jump on the keypad…I’m sure there is some deep insight hidden in whatever that is!! ha Love you much!! Donna & Callie! ha

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]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1054 kathyescobar Sun, 03 Aug 2008 23:00:45 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1054 lisa - yeah, the company of honest people is all i am interested in these days, that is for sure! i am thankful, too. wayne - always so great to hear from you here! you so get it, that tension in ministry for sure. the messages we get sent by the powers that be are very strong & even when they are irrational, they do influence us and can rob us of peace. and the rules of what "can't be done" well that is a whole other ballgame that can mess with our heads! i really believe in what you are doing out there, you are the real deal. lisa – yeah, the company of honest people is all i am interested in these days, that is for sure! i am thankful, too.

wayne – always so great to hear from you here! you so get it, that tension in ministry for sure. the messages we get sent by the powers that be are very strong & even when they are irrational, they do influence us and can rob us of peace. and the rules of what “can’t be done” well that is a whole other ballgame that can mess with our heads! i really believe in what you are doing out there, you are the real deal.

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]]> By: WayneO http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1051 WayneO Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:11:09 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1051 Love this stuff. I am working really hard to move the churches I serve into a real relationship with Christ. I am not sure how but trust the Lord to lead me. As I read this post it occured to me that many have heard this over and over throughout their lives. I am a commissioned lay pastor and have the feeling of inadequacy often. It is usually countered by a deep love of those I serve. When you speak of the messages sent us in so many ways I could not help but think about most church rule books. There are few rules that cause us to actively participate in mininstry. Most describe in detail how we are not allowed to work in ministry. I am PCUSA which I believe frees many and allows where many others don't but am always amazed that the real message I get from those rules is what I cannot do. probably not what you were addressing but my carnival is running today :o) WaynO Love this stuff. I am working really hard to move the churches I serve into a real relationship with Christ. I am not sure how but trust the Lord to lead me.
As I read this post it occured to me that many have heard this over and over throughout their lives. I am a commissioned lay pastor and have the feeling of inadequacy often. It is usually countered by a deep love of those I serve.
When you speak of the messages sent us in so many ways I could not help but think about most church rule books. There are few rules that cause us to actively participate in mininstry. Most describe in detail how we are not allowed to work in ministry. I am PCUSA which I believe frees many and allows where many others don’t but am always amazed that the real message I get from those rules is what I cannot do.
probably not what you were addressing but my carnival is running today :o ) WaynO

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]]> By: Lisa http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1048 Lisa Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:59:08 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1048 Hey Kathy, Running low on energy this week. As you can tell by my lack of comments on your blogging:) Great thoughts! It's good to be in company with others that are aware of what goes on inside of each of us and who are willing to be honest. Hey Kathy, Running low on energy this week. As you can tell by my lack of comments on your blogging:) Great thoughts! It’s good to be in company with others that are aware of what goes on inside of each of us and who are willing to be honest.

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]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1047 kathyescobar Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:09:06 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1047 rachel- always good to hear from you here. yeah, we always forget the "as ourselves" part of jesus' two commandments. i always love the topics you address on your blog. way to stir the pot and ask some great questions. w. jones - well, that is fun and not a typical way that people find this blog. would love to hear more about the healing class you are doing at an assisted living facility. very interesting. rachel- always good to hear from you here. yeah, we always forget the “as ourselves” part of jesus’ two commandments. i always love the topics you address on your blog. way to stir the pot and ask some great questions.

w. jones – well, that is fun and not a typical way that people find this blog. would love to hear more about the healing class you are doing at an assisted living facility. very interesting.

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]]> By: W. Jones http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1046 W. Jones Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:20:26 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1046 Hi Kathy, I found your site using google as I was searching for information on healing for a class that I'm giving at an assisting living facility. As I read your blog, I thought you were very sincere and honest with your thoughts. That's appealing in 2008!!! Hi Kathy,
I found your site using google as I was searching for information on healing for a class that I’m giving at an assisting living facility. As I read your blog, I thought you were very sincere and honest with your thoughts. That’s appealing in 2008!!!

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]]> By: Rachel H. Evans http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1045 Rachel H. Evans Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:10:27 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1045 “I think these core beliefs about ourselves affect every area of our lives, especially our relationship with God.” Yes! Yes! Sometimes I feel guilty about being introspective. I tell myself that spending time reflecting on myself (and trying to consciously rid myself of negative, untruthful self-talk) is wasteful and selfish (thus perpetuating the negative self-talk!). But, as Oprah always says, it’s hard to love others when you don’t have any love for yourself! I think that women have gotten so many mixed messages from both the Church and the broader culture about what our identity ought to be that we absolutely must take time to reflect and pray and find ourselves. Thank you for speaking boldly about this. “I think these core beliefs about ourselves affect every area of our lives, especially our relationship with God.”

Yes! Yes!

Sometimes I feel guilty about being introspective. I tell myself that spending time reflecting on myself (and trying to consciously rid myself of negative, untruthful self-talk) is wasteful and selfish (thus perpetuating the negative self-talk!). But, as Oprah always says, it’s hard to love others when you don’t have any love for yourself!

I think that women have gotten so many mixed messages from both the Church and the broader culture about what our identity ought to be that we absolutely must take time to reflect and pray and find ourselves.

Thank you for speaking boldly about this.

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]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1044 kathyescobar Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:35:16 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1044 tracy - :) yeah, i knew you'd get this. it is always so interesting to me that becoming a christian has created this message for so many, that there was more freedom before. how sad & not what Jesus ever intended, i am sure. glad we are on this journey together in heart & spirit... brian - the in-between of a life lived honestly is lovely, i am so with you. it feels so much more solid, real, compelling. thanks for the jose love, too. he is 1/2 way done, today's the last day, yeah! katherine - sermon away, we need it! i love your thoughts here...and on the God liking us & loving us, oh i love that conversation & remember brennan manning talking about it. we can say over and over "God loves me" but the "but does he really like me?" question is the deeper question because it implies relationship, friendship, intimacy, a different form of connection that is so compelling... w. jones - nice to hear from you here for the first time and i can feel the sincerity and heart behind your words. thanks. how did you find the carnival blog? mark - yep, i am with you. i used to be so guided by outside forces, they tossed me and turned me all over the place and it was exhausting. it's not that i never struggle with that still, but it has decreased in intensity as i've grown on my faith journey. i agree, it means we are anchored more firmly & more free to live unhindered, but with a deep consciousness & care for the people around us. ann - glad you figured out the comment thing! i do think life is just a big ol' bundle of paradoxes and accepting it instead of resisting it brings so much greater freedom & hope & life. i love the sermon on the mount, my favorite piece of the gospels for sure, it so clearly embraces the crazy paradoxes and how everything in the kingdom is upside down and inside out..and yeah, that chapter on sorting out good & bad has always been so helpful, especially when i'm swinging way over one direction or another. both always exist. good, bad, ugly, beautiful, hard, easy, pain, joy. love ya, see ya tonight. tracy – :) yeah, i knew you’d get this. it is always so interesting to me that becoming a christian has created this message for so many, that there was more freedom before. how sad & not what Jesus ever intended, i am sure. glad we are on this journey together in heart & spirit…

brian – the in-between of a life lived honestly is lovely, i am so with you. it feels so much more solid, real, compelling. thanks for the jose love, too. he is 1/2 way done, today’s the last day, yeah!

katherine – sermon away, we need it! i love your thoughts here…and on the God liking us & loving us, oh i love that conversation & remember brennan manning talking about it. we can say over and over “God loves me” but the “but does he really like me?” question is the deeper question because it implies relationship, friendship, intimacy, a different form of connection that is so compelling…

w. jones – nice to hear from you here for the first time and i can feel the sincerity and heart behind your words. thanks. how did you find the carnival blog?

mark – yep, i am with you. i used to be so guided by outside forces, they tossed me and turned me all over the place and it was exhausting. it’s not that i never struggle with that still, but it has decreased in intensity as i’ve grown on my faith journey. i agree, it means we are anchored more firmly & more free to live unhindered, but with a deep consciousness & care for the people around us.

ann – glad you figured out the comment thing! i do think life is just a big ol’ bundle of paradoxes and accepting it instead of resisting it brings so much greater freedom & hope & life. i love the sermon on the mount, my favorite piece of the gospels for sure, it so clearly embraces the crazy paradoxes and how everything in the kingdom is upside down and inside out..and yeah, that chapter on sorting out good & bad has always been so helpful, especially when i’m swinging way over one direction or another. both always exist. good, bad, ugly, beautiful, hard, easy, pain, joy. love ya, see ya tonight.

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]]> By: ann reierson http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1043 ann reierson Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:01:14 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1043 Wow-the more I think about it EVERYTHING in my life seems to be a paradox. Really-EVERYTHING. So I started feeling real "dysfunctional" and thought I MUST be a superb actress and then I remembered 2 things. The Sermon on the Mount and Henry Cloud's thoughts about not all is good and not all is bad. Wow-the more I think about it EVERYTHING in my life seems to be a paradox. Really-EVERYTHING. So I started feeling real “dysfunctional” and thought I MUST be a superb actress and then I remembered 2 things. The Sermon on the Mount and Henry Cloud’s thoughts about not all is good and not all is bad.

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]]> By: Mark R http://kathyescobar.com/2008/07/29/the-crazy-tension-between-too-much-and-not-enough/#comment-1042 Mark R Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:27:50 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=367#comment-1042 The stronger my faith grows the more I see that I ACT out my faith rather than REACT my faith to the stimuli that constitutes the world in which I live. I try very hard not to allow others determine how I feel or how I behave - I must be careful though still to be conscious of those around. It is in tension that growth occurs .... The stronger my faith grows the more I see that I ACT out my faith rather than REACT my faith to the stimuli that constitutes the world in which I live. I try very hard not to allow others determine how I feel or how I behave – I must be careful though still to be conscious of those around.

It is in tension that growth occurs ….

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