Comments on: making the invisible visible http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=making-the-invisible-visible Sat, 04 Feb 2012 05:04:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-728 kathyescobar Thu, 22 May 2008 12:15:36 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-728 eb - eleanor has some amazing stuff...and yes, let's keep dreaming! eb – eleanor has some amazing stuff…and yes, let’s keep dreaming!

]]> By: eb http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-726 eb Thu, 22 May 2008 02:36:58 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-726 this reminded me of something I read Eleanor Roosevelt said: “The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.” making the invisible visible - this is a beautiful dream... this reminded me of something I read Eleanor Roosevelt said:

“The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.”

making the invisible visible – this is a beautiful dream…

]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-707 kathyescobar Sat, 17 May 2008 13:24:19 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-707 davida, glad you stopped by and said hello. i am wondering if maybe a starting place for all of us is noticing where in our lives we are in small ways caring for another human being, calling out their goodness & beauty. maybe it's right in our family or a close relationship or with someone God put in our path that as unexpected. i think many are doing it already, it just somehow hasn't "counted" in the way that ministry usually gets counted (which in my opinion is sad because it minimizes the natural movement of people's lives & has an expectation of 'big' instead of simple). just wondering & thinking out loud. thanks for sharing... davida, glad you stopped by and said hello. i am wondering if maybe a starting place for all of us is noticing where in our lives we are in small ways caring for another human being, calling out their goodness & beauty. maybe it’s right in our family or a close relationship or with someone God put in our path that as unexpected. i think many are doing it already, it just somehow hasn’t “counted” in the way that ministry usually gets counted (which in my opinion is sad because it minimizes the natural movement of people’s lives & has an expectation of ‘big’ instead of simple). just wondering & thinking out loud. thanks for sharing…

]]> By: Davida http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-705 Davida Fri, 16 May 2008 18:49:22 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-705 "Jesus didn’t take a city. rather, one at a time, he somehow made the invisible visible." this is the first time i've read your blog, but it is a thought provoking post and i really enjoyed it. what you talk about it something i am interested in, but i feel overwhelmed and so small...not sure how to go about it. especially with where i am at the moment. anyway, thanks for the post and i'll probably be lurking around for a bit... “Jesus didn’t take a city. rather, one at a time, he somehow made the invisible visible.”

this is the first time i’ve read your blog, but it is a thought provoking post and i really enjoyed it. what you talk about it something i am interested in, but i feel overwhelmed and so small…not sure how to go about it. especially with where i am at the moment. anyway, thanks for the post and i’ll probably be lurking around for a bit…

]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-696 kathyescobar Thu, 15 May 2008 13:59:08 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-696 susan, i don't think there's anything at all wrong with "going to the next level" but to me the joke is that so much is about the hype and not about the real nuts and bolts of truly becoming a more caring and loving person. i'm pretty sure jesus wasn't too focused on "excellence" but that's just me. we can all see it differently, that's for sure! jeromy - LOVED your post. hope others who haven't read it check it out, so good! susan, i don’t think there’s anything at all wrong with “going to the next level” but to me the joke is that so much is about the hype and not about the real nuts and bolts of truly becoming a more caring and loving person. i’m pretty sure jesus wasn’t too focused on “excellence” but that’s just me. we can all see it differently, that’s for sure!

jeromy – LOVED your post. hope others who haven’t read it check it out, so good!

]]> By: Jeromy http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-695 Jeromy Thu, 15 May 2008 04:32:28 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-695 "Take a city" is much like the phrase, "Let's win them to Christ." Huh? Are they prizes to be won? How dehumanizing can we get and then say, "I love you, and so does he." Your title reminded me of a post where the question was asked, What if the church was invisible? http://mendingshift.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/what-if-we-were-invisible/ “Take a city” is much like the phrase, “Let’s win them to Christ.” Huh? Are they prizes to be won? How dehumanizing can we get and then say, “I love you, and so does he.”

Your title reminded me of a post where the question was asked, What if the church was invisible? http://mendingshift.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/what-if-we-were-invisible/

]]> By: Susan http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-694 Susan Thu, 15 May 2008 04:17:23 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-694 Bummer. I was getting into the energy of the parody before I heard it was a parody. We can't "take a city" because that goes against free will, but why not just live with the energy described here in our everyday lives? Why shoot it down? Why not go to the next level? Bummer. I was getting into the energy of the parody before I heard it was a parody.

We can’t “take a city” because that goes against free will, but why not just live with the energy described here in our everyday lives? Why shoot it down? Why not go to the next level?

]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-693 kathyescobar Wed, 14 May 2008 18:24:35 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-693 jenn - i know all about being an infrequent commenter, frequent lurker. that is so me. thanks for saying hi, though, it helps now and then to know who else is reading. i think "taking the city" is sometimes the church's big distraction to actually having to focus on cultivating good relationships in their own houses...it's like an avoidance technique or something? anyway, i'm not all for one and not the other, i think we need a beautiful blend of both and not just default to the easy one that makes us feel better but has nothing to do with true transformation. hope to hear from you again! justin - i am with you, it's not about the technology, it's about all of the distractions & barriers that keep us from what we really were built to need and that is possible to get (just not easy). john - i am seeing more and more how beautiful it is to have one life made visible. one life. churches and ministries focus on the thousands and do lots of good things and can easily in the process miss out on the most important thing--a person really being known and loved. programs, rah-rah, oh all that stuff means nothing in the big scheme compared to someone really giving a rip about them. let's all get together for some laughs again soon. jenn – i know all about being an infrequent commenter, frequent lurker. that is so me. thanks for saying hi, though, it helps now and then to know who else is reading. i think “taking the city” is sometimes the church’s big distraction to actually having to focus on cultivating good relationships in their own houses…it’s like an avoidance technique or something? anyway, i’m not all for one and not the other, i think we need a beautiful blend of both and not just default to the easy one that makes us feel better but has nothing to do with true transformation. hope to hear from you again!

justin – i am with you, it’s not about the technology, it’s about all of the distractions & barriers that keep us from what we really were built to need and that is possible to get (just not easy).

john – i am seeing more and more how beautiful it is to have one life made visible. one life. churches and ministries focus on the thousands and do lots of good things and can easily in the process miss out on the most important thing–a person really being known and loved. programs, rah-rah, oh all that stuff means nothing in the big scheme compared to someone really giving a rip about them. let’s all get together for some laughs again soon.

]]> By: John. http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-692 John. Wed, 14 May 2008 17:40:00 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-692 Kathy, I am grateful that people like you are around, people who know how to put into words the feelings and experiences that many of us have had or are going through. I have been a part of exactly what your post described, those who want to "take things for God". I has always been a cause that has not met with the kind of success that people expect...lots of numbers of changed people. But, what I have observed and experienced is that there is always a small number that God touches and their lives become less invisible, they feel that there is now a purpose and that God really does care. I thank you for your honest words, I just wish I could put my thoughts and experiences in print as clearly as you do. Peace, John Kathy, I am grateful that people like you are around, people who know how to put into words the feelings and experiences that many of us have had or are going through. I have been a part of exactly what your post described, those who want to “take things for God”. I has always been a cause that has not met with the kind of success that people expect…lots of numbers of changed people. But, what I have observed and experienced is that there is always a small number that God touches and their lives become less invisible, they feel that there is now a purpose and that God really does care.

I thank you for your honest words, I just wish I could put my thoughts and experiences in print as clearly as you do.

Peace,
John

]]> By: Justin Mayfield http://kathyescobar.com/2008/05/13/making-the-invisible-visible/#comment-691 Justin Mayfield Wed, 14 May 2008 15:49:45 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=198#comment-691 Kathy - Word. You've been writing on some great subjects I've thought a lot about. I so appreciate that conversation facilitation (as manifested in my ginormous comment ;-) That whole issue of interdependence is pretty key, I agree. It's weird how even our economic system hides our need for others. We can't put a face on the other end of the transaction usually. p.s. I'm not anti-technology. It's just a tool. It's our assumed use of it centered around individual independence that I struggle with. Kathy – Word. You’ve been writing on some great subjects I’ve thought a lot about. I so appreciate that conversation facilitation (as manifested in my ginormous comment ;-)

That whole issue of interdependence is pretty key, I agree. It’s weird how even our economic system hides our need for others. We can’t put a face on the other end of the transaction usually.

p.s. I’m not anti-technology. It’s just a tool. It’s our assumed use of it centered around individual independence that I struggle with.

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