Comments on: faith & politics: my journey http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=faith-politics-my-journey Sat, 04 Feb 2012 05:04:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Noel http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-17511 Noel Wed, 23 Nov 2011 02:26:12 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-17511 I'm a "lover" not a "hater". I believe killing an unborn child out of convenience (and be honest, about 96% of abortions are simply because it's not convenient for the mother to have a baby at that time) is the most hateful thing a person can do. I vote for who will stand up for the innocent. This doesn't mean I want to criminalize women who choose to kill their unborn babies. I want to promote a culture where a woman would decide before sex what to do if she gets pregnant. If it's inconvenient, give it up for adoption. Be loving. As they say in the movie "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure", "Be excellent to eachother". Voting pro-death is the opposite. I’m a “lover” not a “hater”. I believe killing an unborn child out of convenience (and be honest, about 96% of abortions are simply because it’s not convenient for the mother to have a baby at that time) is the most hateful thing a person can do. I vote for who will stand up for the innocent. This doesn’t mean I want to criminalize women who choose to kill their unborn babies. I want to promote a culture where a woman would decide before sex what to do if she gets pregnant. If it’s inconvenient, give it up for adoption. Be loving. As they say in the movie “Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure”, “Be excellent to eachother”.
Voting pro-death is the opposite.

]]> By: Randi :) http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-1199 Randi :) Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:12:05 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-1199 I went back and read this and I agree with a lot of it. I am a christ follower above all else. I am not a christian because I'm a republican. I am voting republiacn this election because the convictions I have because I'm a christian make me agree with McCain more than Obama. I do whatever I can to always be loving and merciful rather than critical and focusing on what I don't agree with in others.... Just wanted to say that I grew up in liberal very left new jersey --- and only when I started reading the Bible during college and after that I found myself and found out what I believed and what I agreed with. I think a lot of people judge conservative republicans to be conservative republicans only because they are ignorant or sheltered or are not learned or worldy enough.... and it's amazing to me how untrue I have found this to be. I like that I'm not 'worldly' but I don't believe myself to be ignorant or at all sheltered - especially because of my background of growing up, up north. I really beleive we all want the same solutions - we all strive for the eutopia that will never happen and do our small part in taking small steps to get there.... BUT we all just have different solutions/ thoughts on HOW to get there. but I just wish it wouldn't divide us so much. I don't beleive one group is more ignorant than the other --- I believe we just have different ideas of how to get where we want to go... different experiences & perspectives. :) A lot of my convictions are from the Bible.... and also the influence of my grandparents who have a lot of knowledge about communism and social systems that I have NO clue about. anyway --- great entry. thanks :) I went back and read this and I agree with a lot of it. I am a christ follower above all else. I am not a christian because I’m a republican. I am voting republiacn this election because the convictions I have because I’m a christian make me agree with McCain more than Obama.

I do whatever I can to always be loving and merciful rather than critical and focusing on what I don’t agree with in others….

Just wanted to say that I grew up in liberal very left new jersey — and only when I started reading the Bible during college and after that I found myself and found out what I believed and what I agreed with.

I think a lot of people judge conservative republicans to be conservative republicans only because they are ignorant or sheltered or are not learned or worldy enough…. and it’s amazing to me how untrue I have found this to be. I like that I’m not ‘worldly’ but I don’t believe myself to be ignorant or at all sheltered – especially because of my background of growing up, up north.

I really beleive we all want the same solutions – we all strive for the eutopia that will never happen and do our small part in taking small steps to get there…. BUT we all just have different solutions/ thoughts on HOW to get there. but I just wish it wouldn’t divide us so much.

I don’t beleive one group is more ignorant than the other — I believe we just have different ideas of how to get where we want to go… different experiences & perspectives. :)

A lot of my convictions are from the Bible…. and also the influence of my grandparents who have a lot of knowledge about communism and social systems that I have NO clue about.

anyway — great entry. thanks :)

]]> By: Lisa http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-859 Lisa Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:01:22 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-859 What I mainly dislike about people who are brain-washed by the church, is that they refuse to think for themselves. I like what you said about seperating what we believe in from the people we hang out with. Going with the flow can really undermine your identity, and it prevents others from knowing and loving the person that you really are. I mainly choose to register with a party to influence the primaries and to piss people off. I think I've registered with the democrats as an act of rebellion. But I'm pretty over politics as a conversation piece. To me, it's just not a fun topic to discuss because people get so passionate that they start stepping on one another. What I mainly dislike about people who are brain-washed by the church, is that they refuse to think for themselves. I like what you said about seperating what we believe in from the people we hang out with. Going with the flow can really undermine your identity, and it prevents others from knowing and loving the person that you really are.

I mainly choose to register with a party to influence the primaries and to piss people off. I think I’ve registered with the democrats as an act of rebellion. But I’m pretty over politics as a conversation piece. To me, it’s just not a fun topic to discuss because people get so passionate that they start stepping on one another.

]]> By: kathyescobar http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-415 kathyescobar Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:46:32 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-415 erin - yeah, the pulling of the "i know what God feels" card really bugs me! jed - thanks for making me feel old! that was the wildest thing, when i watched the inconvenient truth, this thought of people actually saying that "global warming doesn't exist" - hmmmm JP - thanks for stopping by! it is a great faith-energizer - stepping out from the box and having freedom to see the bigger picture. i have found it a little bit scary, though, too. the old way was so predictable and safe. erin – yeah, the pulling of the “i know what God feels” card really bugs me!

jed – thanks for making me feel old! that was the wildest thing, when i watched the inconvenient truth, this thought of people actually saying that “global warming doesn’t exist” – hmmmm

JP – thanks for stopping by! it is a great faith-energizer – stepping out from the box and having freedom to see the bigger picture. i have found it a little bit scary, though, too. the old way was so predictable and safe.

]]> By: JP Manzi http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-414 JP Manzi Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:22:44 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-414 Ted, right on. Somehow, denying global warming has become such a big politcal issue. Sad. Ted, right on. Somehow, denying global warming has become such a big politcal issue. Sad.

]]> By: JP Manzi http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-413 JP Manzi Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:22:00 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-413 Thanks for sharing your story. It's liberating when you take God out of your political box and see the bigger picture. My faith became alive again when I stopped labeling God with a political identity. Independent is a worthy identifier. Both sides have their strengths along with weaknesses. Like Erin stated, there is WAAAY more issues we should be concerned with then the "big two" that is shoved down our throats. Its not always black/white or either/or. Thanks for sharing your story. It’s liberating when you take God out of your political box and see the bigger picture. My faith became alive again when I stopped labeling God with a political identity. Independent is a worthy identifier. Both sides have their strengths along with weaknesses. Like Erin stated, there is WAAAY more issues we should be concerned with then the “big two” that is shoved down our throats. Its not always black/white or either/or.

]]> By: Ted Voigt http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-412 Ted Voigt Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:39:26 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-412 Good stuff, thanks so much for sharing! I didn't cry when Clinton was elected, but mostly because I was 9. It amuses me (and puzzles me, to be honest) how my two-issue friends at my church are becoming three-issue people, adding "global warming doesn't exist" to the agenda. We just finished a year long study on a book by Ken Ham and the Answers In Genesis people called "War of the Worldviews" it was at once painful and enlightening. They are very full of hate and violence, and the scary part is I don't think they realize how violent they sound. Good stuff, thanks so much for sharing! I didn’t cry when Clinton was elected, but mostly because I was 9.

It amuses me (and puzzles me, to be honest) how my two-issue friends at my church are becoming three-issue people, adding “global warming doesn’t exist” to the agenda. We just finished a year long study on a book by Ken Ham and the Answers In Genesis people called “War of the Worldviews” it was at once painful and enlightening. They are very full of hate and violence, and the scary part is I don’t think they realize how violent they sound.

]]> By: Erin http://kathyescobar.com/2008/03/10/faith-politics-my-journey/#comment-411 Erin Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:05:00 +0000 http://kathyescobar.com/?p=147#comment-411 Yep. I hated all the propaganda the church fed me about the "big two" issues. I hated the "God is a republican" agenda. I hated the "hate" mail - you know the "be sure to vote this way on this issue or God will be angry". I hated it all. Yep. I hated all the propaganda the church fed me about the “big two” issues. I hated the “God is a republican” agenda. I hated the “hate” mail – you know the “be sure to vote this way on this issue or God will be angry”. I hated it all.

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