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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-320</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kate, yes, we messies teach them well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kate, yes, we messies teach them well!
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely have the messy gene. My parents hoped that I would grow out of it, but here I am, 31 and still the same.

You know you are messy when your two year old opens the coat closet, throws in his shoes and coat and then pushes the door closed with all his might to stop all the other shoes from falling out and then turns around with a beaming smile  &quot;I hung my coat and shoes&quot; .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely have the messy gene. My parents hoped that I would grow out of it, but here I am, 31 and still the same.</p>
<p>You know you are messy when your two year old opens the coat closet, throws in his shoes and coat and then pushes the door closed with all his might to stop all the other shoes from falling out and then turns around with a beaming smile  &#8220;I hung my coat and shoes&#8221; .
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		<title>By: kathyescobar</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-316</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glenn - i think it&#039;s a desk but i&#039;m not entirely sure anymore it&#039;s been so long!

jewlsintexas - it&#039;s hard when we have learned to control for so long to let go! i can relate!

amy - i know, i am so irritated by the thought of how simple life change seems to be for some.  i think it&#039;s a farce but who knows, maybe it&#039;s possible for some???  not me, that&#039;s for sure.  it was great hanging out on sunday!

erin - i agree, there are so many more important things than a clean house...relationships are always the priority and a lot harder to do than vacuum

beth - anne lamott is my hero!!!

pam - before 9/11 (when jose used to make a lot more money being a pilot) i had a lovely housecleaner who came every monday while i was in class and i have to admit, it was glory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glenn &#8211; i think it&#8217;s a desk but i&#8217;m not entirely sure anymore it&#8217;s been so long!</p>
<p>jewlsintexas &#8211; it&#8217;s hard when we have learned to control for so long to let go! i can relate!</p>
<p>amy &#8211; i know, i am so irritated by the thought of how simple life change seems to be for some.  i think it&#8217;s a farce but who knows, maybe it&#8217;s possible for some???  not me, that&#8217;s for sure.  it was great hanging out on sunday!</p>
<p>erin &#8211; i agree, there are so many more important things than a clean house&#8230;relationships are always the priority and a lot harder to do than vacuum</p>
<p>beth &#8211; anne lamott is my hero!!!</p>
<p>pam &#8211; before 9/11 (when jose used to make a lot more money being a pilot) i had a lovely housecleaner who came every monday while i was in class and i have to admit, it was glory!
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		<title>By: Pam Hogeweide</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam Hogeweide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A clean house is a sign of a boring life.&quot;


That&#039;s why I say, H&lt;b&gt;ire a housecleaner.&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;I&gt;this message brought to you by Pam&#039;s Cleaning Service, I Clean so You Don&#039;t Have To!&lt;/I&gt;


(great effin post!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A clean house is a sign of a boring life.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I say, H<b>ire a housecleaner.</b></p>
<p><i>this message brought to you by Pam&#8217;s Cleaning Service, I Clean so You Don&#8217;t Have To!</i></p>
<p>(great effin post!)
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		<title>By: bethbates</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-314</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne Lamott 3:16 says, &quot;Perfectionism means that you try desperately not to leave so much mess to clean up. But clutter and mess show us that life is being lived.” (Anne LaMott, pg. 28 of Bird by Bird)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Lamott 3:16 says, &#8220;Perfectionism means that you try desperately not to leave so much mess to clean up. But clutter and mess show us that life is being lived.” (Anne LaMott, pg. 28 of Bird by Bird)
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-313</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kathy. Dispelling myths again!

Some parts of my house are tried to be kept presentable - the living room, kitchen and the bathroom that visitors see...but much of the rest of it is cluttered, messy or dirty at ALL times. So what? Will you stop being my friend if I have a 8-inch pile of filing on the floor by my desk, if there is a mountain of laundry on my bed or dog hair on my carpet?

My neighbor has a sign that says &quot;Please excuse the mess, we live here.&quot; Amen. When my kids are grown and gone I will keep a clean house. For now, I&#039;m lucky to have (relatively) clean kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kathy. Dispelling myths again!</p>
<p>Some parts of my house are tried to be kept presentable &#8211; the living room, kitchen and the bathroom that visitors see&#8230;but much of the rest of it is cluttered, messy or dirty at ALL times. So what? Will you stop being my friend if I have a 8-inch pile of filing on the floor by my desk, if there is a mountain of laundry on my bed or dog hair on my carpet?</p>
<p>My neighbor has a sign that says &#8220;Please excuse the mess, we live here.&#8221; Amen. When my kids are grown and gone I will keep a clean house. For now, I&#8217;m lucky to have (relatively) clean kids!
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-312</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;get your house in order&#039; thing is a challenge for me, too. I grew up in a Cleaver-esque household - a place for everything and everything in its place. Yet it seems that the more my creativity blossomsand the more real I am, the less organized I am.

I&#039;m stuck on the image of the pastor who will supposedly step down if his finances are not in order in 2 months. What kind of message does that send to others who are trying to get things in order, yet can&#039;t lick it in 8 short weeks? Am I a failure if I don&#039;t eradicate by debt by some tidy date? If my garage is not cleaned out and organized by May 1st? I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;get your house in order&#8217; thing is a challenge for me, too. I grew up in a Cleaver-esque household &#8211; a place for everything and everything in its place. Yet it seems that the more my creativity blossomsand the more real I am, the less organized I am.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m stuck on the image of the pastor who will supposedly step down if his finances are not in order in 2 months. What kind of message does that send to others who are trying to get things in order, yet can&#8217;t lick it in 8 short weeks? Am I a failure if I don&#8217;t eradicate by debt by some tidy date? If my garage is not cleaned out and organized by May 1st? I think not.
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		<title>By: Jewlsntexas</title>
		<link>http://kathyescobar.com/2008/02/03/more-than-the-mess/#comment-311</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can so resonate with this.  I am the one driven crazy by the &quot;cups&quot; in my life.  I don&#039;t do well with things undone - but it is part of what has been unraveling over the last six months. 
I grew up with a mentally ill mother - and things always had to appear normal even when they weren&#039;t.   The more dysfunctional other parts of my life got - the more important keeping the house orderly had become.  Wouldn&#039;t you know - I married a guy who is completely content with disorder and chaos all around.  What might the lesson be in this?  Two fallen people fall in love and manage to live together for twenty years without bloodshed and learn a lot about love in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can so resonate with this.  I am the one driven crazy by the &#8220;cups&#8221; in my life.  I don&#8217;t do well with things undone &#8211; but it is part of what has been unraveling over the last six months.<br />
I grew up with a mentally ill mother &#8211; and things always had to appear normal even when they weren&#8217;t.   The more dysfunctional other parts of my life got &#8211; the more important keeping the house orderly had become.  Wouldn&#8217;t you know &#8211; I married a guy who is completely content with disorder and chaos all around.  What might the lesson be in this?  Two fallen people fall in love and manage to live together for twenty years without bloodshed and learn a lot about love in the process.
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy ~ 

You are dispelling the myth of the Christian life.  Thank God, because it only leads to guilt, or arrogance, or neurosis.  Honesty on the other hand, leads to refreshment, healing, and grace.

I think all of the cups were kinda colorful.  The nook on the other hand... was there a desk under there? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy ~ </p>
<p>You are dispelling the myth of the Christian life.  Thank God, because it only leads to guilt, or arrogance, or neurosis.  Honesty on the other hand, leads to refreshment, healing, and grace.</p>
<p>I think all of the cups were kinda colorful.  The nook on the other hand&#8230; was there a desk under there? <img src='http://kathyescobar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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